Herbert Kidson

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• Death: 11 Oct 1896, New Primrose Gold Mines, Germinston, Gauteng, South Africa

Reuben married Jessie Alicia Chambers about 1878. Jessie was born on 28 Dec 1855 in Fort Pato, Eastern Cape, South Africa; died in 1926. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• 1820 Lineage: Yes
• Occupation: King William's Town, Eastern Cape, South Africa; a Wagonmaker

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Joseph married Mary Timm on 26 May 1852 in Bathurst, Eastern Cape, South Africa. Mary (daughter of Edward Timm, 1820 Settler and Selina Tarr, 1820 Settler) was born on 26 Oct 1830 in Salem, Eastern Cape, South Africa; was christened on 12 May 1831 in Salem, Eastern Cape, South Africa; died on 23 Apr 1911 in King William's Town, Eastern Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• 1820 Lineage: Yes

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DOB 26 Oct 1830 acc. to IGI.

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Witnesses: Edward TIMM, Thomas HARTLEY, Elizabeth TARR, John ALLEN

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• 1820 Lineage: Yes
• Settler ID: 381
• Name: William Kidson 1820
• Occupation: a Farmer
• Settler: 12 Feb 1820, The Downs, Deal, Kent, England
• Occupation: Between 1826 and 1827, Albany District, Eastern Cape, South Africa; a Dealer in Cattle
• Occupation: 1829, Beaufort Vale, Clumber, Bathurst (nr), Eastern Cape, South Africa; a Farmer

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Carol Gainsford writes in the EGGSA Genesis magazine no 56 of August 2017:
One of the family visited Bathurst, and met an old resident, named Mr. Armstrong, who had lived in the village all his life, and was then 84 years of age. In his time he had been the undertaker, builder, carpenter, farmer, etc. He remembered Thomas Hartley Jnr., from whose store he had made purchases as a child.
He took him to the old Hartley homestead and to the cemetery where he could photograph the Kidson grave. The old man said that about the year 1912, he and his father were commissioned to renovate the Settler graves, in both the Anglican and Methodist churchyards. The Kidson grave was found to be in a lamentable state of dilapidation – the inscriptions on the tomb were faded and illegible, a tree having grown right through the crypt, dislodging the bricks and breaking the plaster.

The tree was chopped out and the damage repaired, and when digging down to the roots, they discovered the grave was not the orthodox type, but in fact a vault, or subterranean room, to which admittance could be gained by removing a stone trap-door and leading down some steps. On the floor of the vault were little platforms, upon which had rested the remains of William and Anna Kidson, the one on the right, directly below the tomb, had upon it a lead sealed coffin containing the body of William, the outer wooden shell had long since rotted away;whilst on the left rested the body of Anna – completely exposed as the wooden coffin had rotted away and she had not been placed in a leaden shell. The amazing part of the discovery was that she had not suffered the ravages of time, having been so well embalmed that after some 70 years, she was still perfectly preserved – the features perfect, her red hair lying in a tumbled mass about her head and the skin unmarked.

The article continues to inform the reader that the Settler William Kidson and Morris Slowman (or Sloman) spent a month in Gaol – 14 days on bread and water and 14 days on normal Government Prison rations. Their crime? Leaving their allocated locations with goods bought from the Government Stores at Bathurst and travelling further afield in the hope to sell these goods so that they could better provide for their families.

Even though they had permission from the Rev. William Boardman who was the eventual leader of the Willson Party, they were charged on the 1st April 1822 by the unpopular Harry Rivers (Landdrost of Albany) who was acting for the Governor Lord Charles Somerset.
Our Settlers certainly lived a miserable life under these conditions and seem to have been treated as criminals rather than settlers.

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Bruce Webber has 16/1/1785

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Willson's party on the La Belle Alliance

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William married Anna Maria Parke, 1820 Settler about 1807. Anna (daughter of Joseph Parke and Elizabeth Tollemache) was born on 18 Apr 1788; died on 18 May 1843; was buried on 23 May 1843 in Bathurst Church (St John's - Anglican), Bathurst, Eastern Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• 1820 Lineage: Yes
• Settler ID: 1
• Settler: 12 Feb 1820, The Downs, Deal, Kent, England

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• 1820 Lineage: Yes
• Settler ID: 781
• Name: Edward Timm 1820
• Occupation: a Farmer
• Religion: the Protestant Church
• Settler: 13 Feb 1820, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

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Timm or Timms - A Mystery
Most family traditions that we have come across is that there was an argument between two of the brothers of Thomas Timm/s, leading to one of the brothers (Charles, the older of the two) taking the family name Timms and the other brother (Edward) taking the family name Timm.
I am related to Edward Timm, and the family tradition handed down in my family was that Edward "dropped the s". In other words, the name was originally Timms and Edward changed his name to Timm.
However, our research has determined that in England and in the early days of South Africa, the names Timm and Timms were pretty much used interchangeably. For examply, there are almost an equal number of references to "Timm" and "Timms" in the Nottingham baptismal register. Thomas signed his name Timm on his marriage certificate, but at other times presumably gave his name as Timms (e.g. when some of his children were baptised). - the above from Mike Wright.

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Edward married Selina Tarr, 1820 Settler on 12 Dec 1829 in Grahamstown, Eastern Cape, South Africa. Selina (daughter of Thomas Henry Tarr, 1820 Settler and Ann Radford, 1820 Settler) was born on 26 Aug 1813 in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England; died on 14 Jan 1894 in Prospect House, Clumber, Bathurst (nr), Eastern Cape, South Africa; was buried on 15 Jan 1894 in Clumber, Bathurst (nr), Eastern Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• 1820 Lineage: Yes
• Settler ID: 759
• Name: Selina Tarr 1820
• Religion: the Protestant Church
• Adult Christening: 5 Sep 1813, Nottingham Church (St Mary's), Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
• Settler: 13 Feb 1820, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

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Marriage Register calls her Selena
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Description: Rev William Carlisle

Witnesses: Thos Tarr, Ann Tarr