Jonathan Abraham Gray

Notes:

RG8/328 ff 00703 p. 668 (copy to be obtained)
Gracechurch Street
Jonathan Abraham Gray Son of John Gray of Watling Street, London Distiller and Mary his Wife was born on the Twenty Ninth Day of the Third Month called May One Thousand Seven Hundred and Forty Six in the parish of Wandsworth in the County of Surrey. Present at his Birth: Ann Shephard (Midwife), Katherine Newman, Rebecca Gray, Susanna Harris

Mentioned in 1798 -1794 will of Abraham Gray, his uncle


Appears in various London directories as below

1776-1800
Location: «tab» «tab»London
Occupation: «tab» «tab»merchant commerce(s)
Gender: «tab» «tab»Male
Address: «tab» «tab»

Address(es): 21, Savage Gardens, London
Occupation: «tab» «tab»

Occupation(s): merchant, commerce(s)
Source Date: «tab» «tab»1779
Source Info: «tab» «tab»

Listed in The Complete Pocket Book, or Gentleman and Tradesman's Daily Journal, for ... 1779, 1779. London
Printed by J. Johnson and J. Payne

Address in 1774 : 71, Leadenhall street, London

Jonathan Abraham Gray «tab»1796-1812 in http://www.rootsweb.com/~qcmtl-e/Notaire.html (Land and Registry records in Montreal) and Edward William Gray ( who was a brother of Jonathan Abraham Gray) 1777 -1798. The years fit with their years of birth.

From http://www.geocities.com/athens/7734/dat28.htm#10. Edward William fits as a brother of Jonathan as does John but not George or Alexander. John the brother's birth year is given as 1756 and birthplace possibly Scotland but Jonathan's brother John died in 1756.

Gray, John -father
Gender: Male
Family:

Children:

Gray, Jonathan Abraham
Death : 31 JUL 1812
Gender: Male
Gray, Alexander
Gray, George
Gray, Edward William
Gray, John

from a reference in Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online about a John Molson:
"according to the declaration they made in the marriage contract drawn up that day by «b»notary«/b» Jonathan Abraham Gray."

Other reference to John Molson in the marriage above
"Other materials concerning him are held at the McGill Univ. Libraries, Dept. of Rare Books and Special Coll., CH16.S52, CH330.S290; McCord Museum, M19110, M19113-15, M19117, M19124, and M21228; and ANQ-M, in the minute-books of notaries Isaac Jones Gibb (CN1-175), Jonathan Abraham Gray (CN1-185), and Henry Griffin (CN1-187); Musée du château Ramezay, docs.520 and 523; Bank of Montreal Arch., Court Committee of Directors, minute-books, 1817-36. a.d.]"

Jonathan married Mary Lock on 20 Jan 1785 in St Mary's, Leyton, Essex. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

No record as of March 2006 of his birth or death dates. Nor of any of his siblings. Aged derived from his apprenticeship.
Mentioned as deceased in brother Abraham's will of 1789.
Suspect he did not die in membership.

Of Reading, Berkshire according to son Newman's marriage record of 1772. Must have been alive as record would have said 'deceased' as it does for Jane Wilkinson's mother. Question whether he 'retired' to Berkshire or was born there.

His 'parents' abode' given as St Saviours Southwark in marriage record at Friends Library. Need to check baptism records for St Saviour's from around 1700 to 1712 and see if any of the GRAYoffspring pop up. Also check burial records between 1772 and 1789 for St Mary Reading.

See from TNA

SC 3/132 «tab»
Second house from Red Hart Inn: Francis Hill to John Gray of Southwark, distiller, for 7 years at ?36 pa. Not executed «tab»1732 Mar 25
SC 3/134 «tab»
Second house from Red Hart Inn: late in tenure of John Gray: Francis Hill to Richard Piper of London, clothworker, for 21 years at ?31 pa «tab»1734 June 25

This suggest he lived at some point in Southwark. This accords with the birth of some of his children in Southwark and marriage to Mary Newman there.

Kingston & Wandsworth MM (1695-1778)
Microfilm 865
Wansworth (sic) Meeting 31st day of 3 mo 1726
Jn Gray jun of the Parish of Saviour's Southwark, Distiller, son of Jn Gray of the said Parish Salesman appeared herewith …. Mary Newman daughter of Jonathan & Katherine Newman …. findings at next monthly meeting.

His occupation was a distiller according to Newman Gray's apprenticeship records of 1757.

London Apprenticeship Abstracts 1442-1850
1757 «tab»Gray Newman, son of John, Watling Street, London, distiller, to Jonathan Steele, 25 May 1757, Ironmongers' Company

Could this below be John? It would make him born in 1705 and about 43 at birth of Newman.

London Apprentices

1719 «tab» Gray John, son of John, citizen and lorimer, to William Walker, 24 Jul 1719, Distillers' Company

[Lorimer being 1) Maker of horse gear 2) Maker of small ironware 3) Wrought iron worker]
Problem is that his father was described as a salesman in son John's marriage record.
Question of his date of death: he is listed as being present at son Newman's marriage in 1772 and wife Mary is named as a widow in brother Abraham's will of 1789 proved 1794 so death sometime between 1773 and 1789 when first will was signed.

His son Newman was apprenticed to Jonathan Steele, a distiller, who was in partnership with Abraham Gray, brother of John and a wine merchnt. Jonathan Steele died in 1783 and was the son of Joseph and Jane Steel, the parents of Jane Steel, who was the mother of Newman's future wife Jane Wilkinson!

Name: «tab»Steel, Gray & Son
Dates: «tab»1776-1800
Location: «tab»London
Gender: «tab»Company
company: «tab»

Address(es): No.33, Lower Thames street, London
Purpose(es): brandy merchants, food/drink(s)
Source Date: «tab»1776«tab»

John married Mary Newman on 13 May 1727 in Society of Friends, Wandsworth, Surrey. Mary (daughter of Jonathan Newman and Katherine Wright) was born on 6 Jan 1710 in Cripplegate Parish, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

RG6/328 ff 00131 p. 96 (copy obtained)
Peel Births
Mary Newman, Daughter of Jonathan Newman and Katherine his Wife was Born on the Sixth Day of the 11 mo 1710 in Cripplegate Parish. Present: Katherine Dodson (Midwife). Ann Bride[l-], Mary Franklin senior, Mary Franklin junior

Book 392 p.1702
Mary Newman born 6th day 11 mo 1710 Cripplegate
Parents: Jonathan & Katherine
Peel MM

Mentioned in Abraham Gray's will so was living in 1789.

Notes:

Married:
1727 «tab» GRAY «tab» JN «tab» NEWMAN «tab» MARY «tab» SOCIETY OF FRIENDS «tab» SURREY
from Boyd's marriage index

Wansworth (sic) Meeting 31\super st\nosupersub day of 3 mo 1726
Jn Gray jun of the Parish of Saviour's Southwark, Distiller, son of Jn Gray of the said Parish Salesman appeared herewith …. Mary Newman daughter of Jonathan & Katherine Newman …. findings at next monthly meeting.
«u» RG6/1108
London & Middx Monthly Meeting of Kingston: Marriages 1672-1776
«/u»Found to be Book 958.
«u» RG6/1108 00091-92«/u» (copy obtained)

13\super th\nosupersub 5 mo 1727
John Gray of the Parish of Saviour's, Southwark, Distiller, son of John Gray of the said Parish Salesman and Mary Newman daughter of Jonathan and Katherine Newman
…… intention at several Meetings in Wandsworth ……… (married) in a publick Meeting Place at Wandsworth
56 witnesses including:
John Gray
Mary Gray
Katherine Newman
Edward Wright
Sarah Wright
John Gopsill
Wm. Gray
Jos[ep]h Gray
Mary Gray
Valen. Wright
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sussex & Surrey - Marriages
Book 958 p. 102
Kingston MM
Mary Newman & John Gray married Wandsworth 1727 5th month 13th day

Notes:

Given as salesman in his son's notice of intention of marriage. Also called a woollen draper.

RG9/330 00220 p.147
Southwark Burials
John Gray, late of ye Parish called St Saviour in Southwark, Salesman, Aged about forty seven years, Died ye 29«sup»th«/sup» 1«sup»st«/sup» mo 1728, Searcher's Report of Convulsions, and was Buried in Long Lane, in Southwark, ye 2«sup»nd«/sup» day of he 2«sup»nd«/sup» mo following.

Pamphlet on his descendants in the service of the Crown in 1914 by Perceval Drewett Lucas. Copy in British Library and in the Friends Library, London. It is a folded large printed page with lists of male names under some of John Gray's descendants.

In a document supplied by Anthony Wallis 2006, with the name Robin Deas 1985 appearing on the page, there are various dates attributed to Grays. John Gray sen. has a date of birth attributed as well as a date of death. The DoB needs to be checked in the birth records of the L&M digests but it is unlikely to be there. None of his children years of birth has a day and a month attributed and some of them do not have years of birth attributed. This leads me to think that the Gray offspring were not born in membership of the Society or that the records were destroyed. Where there are years given, these most likely come from estimates based on age at death.

Date of death on sheet from Anthony assumes Jan but this does not accord with the old style calendar or with the names given by the Friends to the months.

John married Mary Varnham on Yes, date unknown. Mary (daughter of William Varnham and Dorothy) was born in 1679; died on 12 Aug 1759 in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England; was buried on 17 Aug 1759 in Long Lane burial ground, Southwark, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

desrcibed as widow of John Gray of Hithcin, Herts.

Notes:

Burial record says he was about 63 at death.

London & Middx digest registers:

Jonathan's birth: 9th day 10th mo 1676, Houndsditch,
Son of John (a Baker) & Elizabeth of Houndsditch

«u» RG6/1102 00048«/u» (copy obtained)

Entry No. 280 - Jonathan Newman the Son of John Newman Baker & Elizabeth his Wife dwelling in Houndsditch was born ye ninth of he tenth month One Thousand Six Hundred and Seventy Six. Present at the Birth: Margaret Harrison, Mid; Jane Hartshorne, Lidia Wade


London & Middx Two Weeks Meeting (1705-1712)
Vol 5 p. 59
Bull & Mouth Meeting 25th day of 2 mo 1706
Jonathan Newman of St Giles, Cripplegate, Draper, son of John Newman late of Aldgate, Baker, Deceased & Katherin Wright of New High Street, London, d. of Nathaniel Wright late of Guildford Gent Dec & Jane his wife, him surviving, proposed their intention of marriage …… the young man's mother being present gave her consent …… the maid produced a certificate of her mother's consent …… John Hodgkins and Thomas Zachary to make enquiry and make report to this meeting.

RG6/496 ff 00129 p.97 (copy obtained)
1706 19«sup»th«/sup» 10mo
Jonathan NEWMAN of the Parish of Gyle's, Cripplegate, London, Draper, son of John NEWMAN late of the Parish of Aldgate, London, Baker, Deceased, and Katherine Wright of New [Fish?] Street, London, Dau of Nathaniel Wright late of Guildford in the County of Surrey Gent and Deceased («i»no details of mother)«/i» ……….(married) this nineteenth day of the Tenth Month called December in the year One Thousand Seven Hundred and Six …… in a Publick Assembly …. in their publick meet: place at Bull and Mouth in London.
38 witnesses including Relations:
Eliz. NEWMAN
Thos. [Wright]
Edwd. [Wright]
Peter [D--?-y]
Thos. NEWMAN
Jno. NEWMAN
Richard [H-?-]
Joan Wright
Thos. Walker
Jno. Gopsill and a separate word
Mary Gopsill
Sarah Hopkins


RG9/330 00510 p. 436 (copy obtained)
Southwark Burials
Jonathan Newman of the parish of Wandsworth in Surrey aged about 63 years, who died the 23rd Day of the Eleventh Month called Jany 1740 of a Consumption was buried the 29th of the same in Friends burying Ground in Long Lane Southwark.

Jonathan married Katherine Wright on 19 Oct 1707 in Devonshire House Meeting, London, England. Katherine (daughter of Nathaniel Wright and Jane) was born about 1678; was christened on 15 Dec 1678 in Saint Mary, Guildford, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Was present the births of most of her grandchildren and last presence recorded in 1751 so presumably died shortly thereafter. She was 73 at the 1751 birth.

Notes:

Married:
1706 19th 10mo
Jonathan Newman of the Parish of Gyle's, Cripplegate, London, Draper, son of John Newman late of the Parish of Aldgate, London, Baker, Deceased, and Katherine Wright of New [High] Street, London, Dau of Nathaniel Wright late of Guildford in the County of Surrey Gent and Deceased (no details of mother) ……….(married) this nineteenth day of the Tenth Month called December in the year One Thousand Seven Hundred and Six …… in a Publick Assembly …. in their publick meet: place at Bull and Mouth in London.
38 witnesses including Relations:
Eliz. Newman
Thos. [Wright]
Edwd. [Wright]
Peter [D--?-y]
Thos. Newman

Marriage:
London & Middx Two Weeks Meeting (1705-1712) Vol 5 p.59
Bull & Mouth Mtg 25th day of 2 mo 1706
"Jonathan Newman of St Giles, Cripplegate, Draper, son of John Newman late of Aldgate, Baker, Deceased & Katherin Wright of New Fish Street, London, d. of Nathaniel Wright late of Guildford Gent Dec & Jane his wife, him surviving, proposed their intention of marriage .... the young man's mother being present gave her consent .... the maid produced a certificate of her mother's consent ... John Hodgkins and Thomas Zachary to make enquiry and make report to this meeting." The report showed that her uncle Edward Wright and her mother were present at the report back meeting as well as Jonathan's mother.

Notes:

His will notes that he is a distiller. He refers in his will to his wife Elianor as executrix and legacies to his two sons-in-law John Gray, salesman of Southwark and James Wright, cloathier of Oxon. Also refers to his daughter Elizabeth who is the wife of George Clark. Given as a salesman in sheet from Anthony Wallis 2006 and dated 1985.

So, given there are a number of his children's deaths in Quaker reocrds, including two of Elizabeth, why are there no baptisms? Who was married to James Wright?

William married Dorothy on Yes, date unknown. Dorothy was born in 1658; died on 15 Jan 1710 in Saviour's parish, Southwark, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

John Newman late of the Parish of Aldgate, London, Baker, Deceased by 1706 when son Jonathan married Katherine Wright.

Book 822 p.90 & Book 875 p.18
John Newman, Baker, of Houndsditch m. Elizabeth Ryly of London 30th day 11 mo 1672 Devonshire

Died of a consumption aged 35, Devonshire House MM

John married Elizabeth Ryly on 30 Nov 1672 in Devonshire House Meeting, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

«u»RG6/331 00534 p. 463
«/u»Southwark Burials
1713 - Elizabeth Newman, of the Parish of Saviours in Southwark, Aged about Seventy-Eight Years, dyed the 24\super th\nosupersub day of the 12 mo called February 1713, Searcher's Report of Age, and was Buryed in Ditto Ground, the 29\super th\nosupersub of ye same.
«u»
«/u»Age at death gives a birth of around 1635 which is too early for Elizabeth Ryly but parish is correct.

Notes:

Married:
"30th day 11 mo 1672"
Digest Registers on microfilm
London and Mddx marriages

Book 822 p.90 & Book 875 p.18
John Newman, Baker, of Houndsditch m. Elizabeth Ryly of London 30\super th\nosupersub day 11 mo 1672 Devonshire

«u» RG6/974
London & Middx Monthly Meeting of Devonshire House, Houndsditch: Marriages 1666-1707«/u»
Found to be Book 875. «u»
RG6/974 00023«/u» (copy obtained)

John Newman of Houndsditch, London, Baker, & Elizabeth Ryly of London Spinster married 30\super th\nosupersub day of 11 mo called January 1672 at Devonshire House without Bishopsgate.
21 witnesses including:
[Wm?] Newman

Notes:

Nathaniel Wright late of Guildford in the County of Surrey Gent and Deceased (no details of mother) ……….on daughter's marriage record.

Nathaniel married Jane on 13 Jan 1676 in Holy Trinity, Guildford, Surrey. Jane was born about 1650. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]